Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:05] Speaker B: Hey everybody, it's Lacey and I'm Lauren and welcome to another episode of the Llamas podcast.
[00:00:12] Speaker A: And today we are going to do a quick question on something that's going to deal with Women's History Month and those type things. But then we're going to dig into the Afro man trial because it's, it's been interesting and it is a non criminal case, but it is one that the world has been interested in. So we're going to talk about that in First Amendment rights.
But I'm going to put Lacey on the spot. So I'll do my answer first. But for Women's History Month, what woman or group of women, real or fake, like TV characters, real people. And I'm not talking about your mom, grandma type situation. Somebody out in the world that has been an inspiration to you. Whether you want to say it's like l Woods made me want to be an attorney or whatever else. And so I've been thinking about this because I want to do a whole podcast on this at some point.
But for me it's the Golden Girls. Like literally, I feel like they truly have impacted my life.
Here is little Dorothy.
Dorothy's my spirit animal, but I truly think they have impacted my life. Like I know it's going to sound stupid but, but I grew up watching the Golden Girls with my grandma and like, you know, like, oh, haha, that's funny. And not always understand it. But as an adult, like they truly have made such a difference. They were progressive women.
You would have thought like for me the show was like for, I mean, who would have thought 4 middle age, post menopause or in menopause, women talking about their lives, their sex lives, all of that.
[00:01:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:48] Speaker A: Would truly be so monumental that here we are almost 40 years later and this show is still having an impact. But they hit such hard hitting things. Back in the day. We talked about gay rights, we talked about Blanche's brother was gay and she had to deal with that. Then there was that one episode where Dorothy's best friend was a lesbian and Blanche thought it was Lebanese. But then she got jealous, she wasn't into her. They talked about, you know, elder abuse. Like we see the issues with like Sophia's friends from the home. We see, you know, sexism, we see Dorothy being ignored by doctors because she has chronic fatigue syndrome. And we just see like these hard hitting issues that we're still dealing with today and how they were progressive, they didn't stand down, they stood up for what they believed in and they did it all without having. I mean, two were w. Well, I guess three of them were widows, one was divorced, and they had happy, fulfilling lives. And I just think that show truly impacted women altogether because I don't think we ever would have had shows like Sex in the City. I don't think we would have had this show Girls. I don't think we would have so many of what we had without them. I actually wrote a paper in college. It was in Women and Gender Studies, about the evolution of women in a sitcom and how that, like, helped women grow and progress. And one of my big features of it was the Golden Girls. And I really wish I still had that paper to this day, because I would read it right here because it was so good. But I talked about, like, and I will say the Arthur in general and her Dorothy's my favorite. Like, growing up, I was like, oh, I love Blanche because she's Southern. No, Dorothy is my spirit animal. I love her. I love her honesty.
She is amazing. And one day. So I'm short. I don't know how many of y' all know how far I am only five feet, so. So. But my daughter Kylie is right now on the pretty tall side for her age. So my hope in the future is we, when she is an adult, can go dressed up Halloween dressed as Sophia and Dorothy dressed as Sunny and Cher cos cosplay.
But I will say, I just feel like, because of them, I feel like they took a stigma off of women. Like, I really do. Like, they had side note Designing Women. You are amazing too, but you just didn't hit the point like Golden Girls. So they really have impacted my life. And I just think is Women's History Month, we should give a shout out to them, especially Bea Arthur, because she was a huge supporter of animal rights, LGBTQ rights.
Um, I mean, she'd done it from the whole time. Like, even when she was on, like, mauled back in the day, she was very supportive. And I love that Betty White and Rue McClanahan both were huge animal rights activists.
And it just really had an impact on my life. And to this day, I sit there and watch it, and it makes me happy.
And I think because of them, you know, the characters and friends were able to negotiate contracts where women got the same pay as men because of people like them. When it came the Big Bang Theory, you know, the men taking pay cuts to be able to have Amy Farrah Fowler and Bernadette make the same. I just think we wouldn't have had any of that without them. So that is. Impacted me in women's rights, I guess. So, Lacey, what is some. And this. I didn't mean this to be, like, I guess as serious, like, yes, Ginsburg. Like, she fought for her rights. Not like that, but just something more informal. Who's impacted you?
[00:05:40] Speaker B: So if we're thinking about, like, not just people that we know, so. I grew up actually watching a lot of Disney movies. I grew up watching, like, Lion King was one of my favorites, but two of my favorites were Pocahontas and Mulan. So I know it sounds silly, and they don't.
They're not real. You know, they're cartoon characters. But I just think, like, when I watched those movies, I just thought it was so cool because, like, Pocahontas was standing up for her tribe. Like, she went against all of the white men to save her tribe and to do what was best. And her father's trying to tell her, like, what he thinks needs to be done, and she stands firm in what her beliefs are. And so just. I remember watching Pocahontas growing up and just thinking just how cool it was that she was standing up for her community, in essence, you know, to fight. And I just. I remember that movie being really empowering. That struck me. And the other one was Mulan. And so if you've seen Mulan, you know that her dad was drafted to the war. He didn't have a son, and so he was going to have to go. And he was old, and he wasn't in good shape. He walked with a cane, and so she chopped her hair off. She dressed as a man, and she went to war for her dad and to protect his life. And, like, they couldn't come forward and say that because she would have been murdered. Like, she literally risked her life to save her dad's life, and it was just so cool. And like, in the training camps, I remember, like, she. She couldn't do everything, but she didn't give up. Like, she. She didn't care that it was a man's world. And I feel like that just kind of resonates as a. As a lawyer, because law still so much is a man's world. I definitely think it's changing. And there's so many times now, not so many, but there are times now I will catch myself in court with all women. And I get so excited because I'm just like, look how far we've come. But I think about Mulan and going to war with all. You know, she's surrounded by men, and just. It was a Man's world. And she did. She saved their whole entire country, you know, by being, you know, with her, with her strength and her brains and smarts and power. And I just thought it was the coolest thing. So I think as a child, I would have to go back to, I guess, my Disney idols for what I felt about women and empowerment and now getting into college years and stuff. Don't judge me, but I love the Kardashians. I mean, they have all been through messy breakups, like fathers of their kids and all of that, but they stand on their own two feet. Like, I remember. I'll never forget an episode where Kris Jenner comes up to Chloe and says, tristan wants to play pay for her daughter's birthday party. And she goes, I don't need Tristan to pay for my daughter's birthday party. And she goes, well, isn't it kind that he wants to pay for the birthday party? And she goes, sure, that's nice, but he's not paying. It's my. I threw it. I planned it. I'm paying for my daughter's birthday party. And I love that mentality. Like, they have just built an empire on fem, on women and doing whatever they want. They put everything out there and they don't care. And I just. I mean, look what all they've done. I mean, they are billionaires and they are.
[00:08:54] Speaker A: But I will say, like, I don't think. Okay, I'm all for Mulan because, yes, I love her. Pocahontas was born as I'll get out to me, But I do love Mulan. Maddie calls her Huan because she can't say Mulan.
Listen to Huan because we listen to the soundtrack a lot. It's my favorite soundtrack. I guess the Kardashians are hard, though, because they were wealthy to start with. Yeah, they built an empire. They came from. Well, so I think we have to like. And not their mother's wealth. They came from the wealth of their wealthy attorney daddy.
[00:09:26] Speaker B: But look at this. Yes, they come from wealth, which means they don't have to do anything. And even now, they can just shoot the show and be done. But look at what all Kim has done to try to get her law degree. She doesn't have to do that. She doesn't need it. She can still do something, but that's what she does. And she just posted today, she's selling some to raise money for an organization that provides free legal services to women, whether they're fighting for, like, custody or trying to get out of an abusive relationship. There is a nonprofit that she's selling clothes for and every. All the proceeds will go to fund this. She is trying to raise money for the firefighters in California. There's firefighters that are, that come from the prison system. They're paid a dollar a day. That's it. She is advocating for that. She's gone to the White House and succeeded in prison reform. And this is after she was the victim of an armed robbery. So in the legal sense, I just think she's got all this money and she doesn't have to do anything. She doesn't have to. And Kanye west is her baby daddy, so she could easily sit back, just, you know, shoot the show for all she wants to do and she could get support from him if she needed it.
But she's doing all this reform and I think it's great. She doesn't have to, but she wants to.
[00:10:46] Speaker A: Yeah, they just aren't self made. Like, they kind of act like it's a lot easier to make money when you got.
[00:10:53] Speaker B: I don't like it when they say they're self made.
[00:10:55] Speaker A: They're not.
[00:10:55] Speaker B: It's kind of like Savannah, Chris babies. When Savannah says, you know, I didn't get any special treatment and getting my parents pardons. I just, you know, kept going to the White House. Okay, how much did you pay?
How much did you pay for the planes to go to go up there and sit with the president? How much did you spend on golfing with his hat and tagging? Like, like you spent a lot of money to get those pardons that a lot of people don't have. So yeah, you are privileged in getting them out. And I do credit her for doing it. I think she did a great job advocating for her parents and she devoted a lot of time and money. But like you said, she doesn't have the money. So I agree. They are not self made. I don't think that. But there are a lot of people with a lot of money not doing good and putting good out there. And so I really admire the good that they do put out there and send the show. Some of the other things that they do or you follow the social media like I do and you see a lot of things that they do and I really love it. I, I think it's great because they don't have to, but they do.
[00:12:02] Speaker A: I guess in that sense. Dolly is always the goat of that though.
[00:12:06] Speaker B: Like Dolly is the goat.
[00:12:08] Speaker A: She came from the poor Appalachia and now she. I guess that's one thing I really respect about her with her money she does give back to her hometown.
But as far as the Kardashians go, I will say my favorite is not one of the women. My favorite will always be Lord Disick, because his bluntness is just like. He's like when. I think it was one time when one when Chloe was, like, losing weight, and he's like, don't lose that butt. That's our money maker. And, like, I just. He's not. Now. I don't know how it would be if I met him in person, but I would love to meet him. Of all the people, our Chris.
I do love Chris. And, like, her plastic surgeon.
I want their number for a forever. Need a facelift. Her plastic surgeon and Denise Richards. I don't know if y' all have seen where she just had her face left, but, oh, my gosh, she looks awesome. I need that surgeon if I ever want that.
[00:13:00] Speaker B: Yeah, hook us up, Chris.
So switching gears, I know I'm gonna get judgment for the Kardashians, but I love them. Judge away. I don't care. And go Mulan. So anyways, I have been obsessed with the Afroman trial. So if y' all have not followed this, go to your tick Tock. And there. It's everywhere. You have to go on it.
[00:13:22] Speaker A: I don't have a tick tock. So, like, I have seen so much. Just be like an old person and watch them reels on Instagram. They're there.
[00:13:31] Speaker B: Or join me on the tick Tock. But if you don't know, Afroman just went to trial because in 2022, his house was raided.
I don't know the probable cause for the search warrant. It kind of feels after the trial, they didn't really have any probable cause, but I guess they got, like, a tidbit that he had drugs and kidnapping victims.
And so they. The Adams county sheriff knocked down his door, and then he heard the glass break, but they broke in his home. He caught it all on his home security system. It did scare his children very much. Apparently they found no drugs. They did not find any kidnapping victims. They did take $4,000 of which apparently $400 of that $4,000 went missing while on the way to the station.
So, no, I think he even know how they were.
[00:14:24] Speaker A: I get, like, if it's a crime, you can take cash, but, like, they found no drugs there. So how could you take his cash? Like, that's what I didn't do.
[00:14:32] Speaker B: So.
So, yeah, so they can. The government can seize anything that comes from drugs. Right? So if you're selling drugs out of your car, they can seize your car. Now they can't keep it.
They have to file additional paperwork to keep it. And you have the right to fight that. But if somebody is, you know, convicted of selling drugs and they had large amounts of cash, they keep that cash, you don't get it back.
So anyways, I am very confused on that, too. I was wondering the same thing, because if they didn't find any drugs, then there was no reason.
[00:15:07] Speaker A: How did you seize anything? There wasn't anything to seize.
[00:15:12] Speaker B: So from there, I do think they arrested him or at least placed him in custody, but clearly he was released because they didn't find anything.
[00:15:21] Speaker A: Well, you know, during this, he has security cameras in his house. So, like, while this was going on, there is security here. Not the cops, but his personal ones that are being used to watch them in his house. In the house, yeah.
[00:15:37] Speaker B: So after this, he starts releasing songs on the raid. And one that is my family's favorite right now, my children are singing it. And if you go to my TikTok, Mac is singing and dancing to it. Lemon pound cake. So there is a clip in the home footage system where this one officer, like, does a double. Look at this Lemon pound cake that's on the counter. So he just runs wild with that and writes a song about officer lemon pound cake. And apparently after the song was released, everybody started calling him lemon pound pound Cake. There's another officer, like, his brother is. Is convicted for some kind of sex crime with children, apparently. And so he wrote, like, a song about that and then terrible. But Lisa.
[00:16:25] Speaker A: You wrote a song about Lisa.
And I mean, some of it was bad and mean, but, you know, like, she's not too ugly, but she's not too pretty.
So he did say she was hiding something bigger than his. So.
But I mean, like, I think we got to give some context to some of these songs so people understand it. So, yes, Lemon pound cake makes him want to put down his gun and cut him a slice. And then Randy Wallace is the son of a bleed.
That's why I effed his wife and got filthy rich. But let me tell you, the beat is on point with that one. The beat is.
[00:17:09] Speaker B: And he is doing this all in
[00:17:11] Speaker A: his American flag suit and his sunglasses. And then he's got the one that he does to battle him of the republic.
[00:17:19] Speaker B: But yes,
[00:17:25] Speaker A: Biggest ones, though, I do think that came out were lemon pound cake, where he says the guy's name in it and why. I'm blanking right now. But he says his Name because he says he's big as hell. Like, I do remember.
[00:17:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:37] Speaker A: After man's fat himself. So, like, that was kind of like whatever. And Randy Wallace was the big one about.
[00:17:45] Speaker B: Yeah, Randy Wallace was a son of a.
And then Lisa, it was Lick Them Low Lisa. And in the video, he has somebody play Lisa and she's like, chasing him. And there's this really funny clip where he's like, all into the song and then you see her coming and he starts running and Lisa starts ch.
Or Lisa. Like the fake one. So anyways, I guess let's pause one.
[00:18:12] Speaker A: So if you don't know who Afroman is, as I've had to explain this to one of my co workers, because she was not. She didn't know who he was. He sang this song Because I got high. And Colt 45, he has two songs. Really. He's actually a very excellent guitarist.
If you look on itunes, he has a whole CD where he just played, like, guitars. And he's actually really, really talented. My husband has actually seen him in concert.
[00:18:37] Speaker B: And he is really funny. He is. He is very much a comedian, honestly. And, like, because I Got High, really, it's just a funny song. Like, it's all about humor. And so, like, keeping on brand with that. After this raid, he made jokes about it with these songs. And then the police filed a lawsuit for defamation.
[00:18:58] Speaker A: And honestly, into account, he has two hit songs.
This man is not super. We all know who Afroman is, but do you keep up with him? I have no idea what he did anymore. Had not heard about him.
[00:19:12] Speaker B: Right. And so
[00:19:16] Speaker A: we.
[00:19:16] Speaker B: I think you will agree, Lauren, we did not hear these songs until this trial.
So, like, they're sitting there saying that, you know, that their reputations have been ruined. But honestly, I believe if they were ruined at all, they wouldn't have a job. It was just in Adams County. Right. If they really were distressed, it was just in Adams county, it would have been probably just the people around there. Because they did say, like, that one officer would be called, hey, Lemon pound Cake. Or if they saw Lisa, they called
[00:19:49] Speaker A: me Honest for the people. Okay. So the people in the county rallied with Afromance. So they probably already had bad reputations.
[00:19:57] Speaker B: Right? Right. And so. But because of this lawsuit, it blew up. And of course, Aphraman wears his American flag suit with his glasses, decor every day, staying in character for who he is.
And honestly, like, it is now worse for these cops because of the lawsuit.
[00:20:19] Speaker A: We got national attention like, it was on the Today show.
[00:20:22] Speaker B: It has been on hilarious it was. So there's some, like. So they have to play the songs while they're on the stand. So they're playing the song. So, like, y' all literally. Lincoln Lolisa is playing and she's just, like, sobbing. And it is just the funniest song. And so, like, then the officer's up there and he's like, this. They're playing, okay. And it's just. Oh, my. It was so funny. And I love. He has some of the best quips from it. Afro man, because he testified.
He was like. They're like, do you really think you have the freedom of speech to do this? It's like, yes. Yes, I do. He's like, I have the right to take my bad times, turn them into a good time. And I think I'm a good sport for doing so. And I'm like, life motto. Life motto. I've sent it to, like, my friends said it to me. I sent that to other friends, that clip because it was so funny. Loved it. But there's all these kind of fun quotes and moments and. Oh, the wife. This one guy said it ruined his marriage and that was the reason.
So they got forced.
[00:21:21] Speaker A: And then the. Well, wait a second. Let's take it back to Randy Williams when his testimony.
So with defamation, you have to prove that it was a false statement made to make you look bad, pretty much. But it was false. And it is a statement of fact. And I think that's something. Like, it was funny. They said, are you a son of a. And he's like, no, she's been dead. Like, we can't say if she was or wasn't.
Right. So some of it you gotta think is like puffery, too. Like, she's not quite ugly. She's not pretty. Like, he. Like, he's big as hell. I mean, like, obviously that's never going to be taken as a true statement. He is big as hell, Right? It's like, okay, but here's the thing that got me so up there. When Randy Wallace is up there and they're like, was. What's his name?
[00:22:13] Speaker B: John?
[00:22:13] Speaker A: What was. What's Afro man's real name? Mr. Foreman, right?
[00:22:17] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:22:18] Speaker A: Was Mr. Foreman having an affair with your wife? I don't know.
Okay, well, that could. This is what I kind of didn't get in their attorney strategy. They were trying to say it painted him in a different light. But my thought process with all this is, if it's true, it's not defamation. So you just said you don't know if this man Was screwing your wife. Well, if that's the case, none of this should even be there because it could be true. He was having an affair with your wife.
That part completely got me.
[00:22:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
So it was just a mess. And the thing is, is it was a comedy. And think about comedians, when they do stand up comedy, they roast so many people.
I mean, we've seen and you see roasts all the time, and they say things. And that's one of our true amendment,
[00:23:07] Speaker A: like, that's one of our protected speeches is satire, which is really so, like, I know when we think of satire, we think like Weird Ale and him doing his parodies of, like, you know, he did Gangsters paradise, and people got really mad about that parrot him with Amish paradise, those type things. Because they said that song shouldn't have been parodied, but he was allowed to do it because that is one of our free speech protections. Our free speech does want us to have satire and parodies. And to be able to express an opinion is always free speech too. Like, right. Unless it's obviously like a hate speech or something. But in this, none of that was violating free speech. He was just stating satire and stating his opinion. Nobody is seriously going to think, I don't know when you hear him sing that song, that's why I effed his wife and got filthy rich. And you see that picture of that man's wife, you know, he did not sleep with her.
[00:24:07] Speaker B: And she testified and said that was not the reason for the divorce. So that wasn't even true. But y', all, they said, sued him for like $4 million, 3.5 million. They were just trying to get.
[00:24:18] Speaker A: And honestly, I don't even know how they came up with that number because you have to prove in any of these lawsuits. So, like, damages have to be. There are things like treble damages which say we can amplify your damages or like, there's reasons you can get more damages, but those have to be through statute. I don't know their statute there, but my gut tells me they don't have this huge thing for defamation. What they would have to show is because I was defamed, I lost my job, I lost these wages because I was defamed. This happened and it doesn't. It appeared all of them were still working. So besides getting made fun of, what happened. Right.
[00:25:02] Speaker B: So thankfully, the jury saw through the crap.
They said that Afroman is not liable for defamation. He did not have to pay anything.
And so, yeah, so it was a. It was a win for America for Our rights for freedom of speech, honestly.
And of course, aphroman is just amping it up now that he's won.
[00:25:26] Speaker A: And now you can found lemon pound cake pretty easy on Apple itunes now.
[00:25:32] Speaker B: Yeah, it's one of his top. It's above because I got high now.
[00:25:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it was like 45 then. Lemon pound cake is the last time I looked.
[00:25:43] Speaker B: Yeah. When I looked, Lemon pound cake was first.
[00:25:46] Speaker A: So for me, I think it shows. I kind of want to take a minute and make it a little bit more serious. So for Norm Afroman's got money, he got sued. He had no. I don't know how much money. He has these two songs. I don't really know. Yeah, I wouldn't.
No. But the thing is, he got sued. He had to go. This is why. I think, honestly, the cops sued him, hoping not that this would go anywhere, but he just give him a little money.
[00:26:11] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:26:11] Speaker A: But he didn't settle. He went through with the trial. I bet at this point he had six figures in attorney's fees. Now, I hope his attorney countersued to get attorneys fees for this, But I don't know what their laws say up there for that. But if we are a normal person and we got sued for this, think how much that would suck. Like, I know we always talk a lot about the criminal justice system and how it's not fair in a lot of ways, but. But civil isn't either, because it was a bogus case, a truly garbage case, because he had the right to have this freedom of speech. And nobody in their right mind took these songs seriously. We all took them as funny satire, that type stuff. He had to go through with this whole. And I wouldn't have settled if I was him because that would have set bad precedent that people can do this and get away with it. He fought for his free speech, but, yeah, he won. But he also probably spent a hundred thousand dollars in attorney's fees.
Right.
[00:27:12] Speaker B: That's.
[00:27:13] Speaker A: That's what sucks. I think with some of this is showing, like, yeah, the civil world sucks too, because he had to put. Also, I doubt he ever got the county to fix his door. They busted again.
[00:27:25] Speaker B: That's what he was saying too. He said they're like, oh, and you're pocketing all this money. He's like, actually, I'm trying to pay for the damage they call lost. And I think he said there was at least $20,000 in damages.
[00:27:35] Speaker A: I mean, they did. If you watch his. They actually like busted his security camera. Like, they broke it. They busted his front door down. I mean or side door. I can't really tell. And so yeah. And he did nothing wrong because the cops got. And yes. I mean he sings a song because I got high. He may have some weed. He didn't. But even if he did, is that worth listing your door down for? And it's not like he's in there. Traffick.
No,
[00:28:06] Speaker B: it's a mess. And honestly, I think he could have sued them. They seriously did just make this whole thing worse. I would love to see him release like how many views or plays that these songs had prior to trial and after the trial because I know it is up significantly.
[00:28:26] Speaker A: I wonder if he could go back because this actually had a. By the jury. He was found not guilty and sued them for frivolous lawsuit to get his attorney's fees back. Back.
[00:28:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure he will.
[00:28:39] Speaker A: His attorney was like, not like he was just so casual, feeling like chill. But I figure like you kind of gotta have that. And let me tell you, I love the videos of the people in the county. See, they must hate the Adams county sheriff just as much because one man was out there giving out lemon pound cake.
[00:28:58] Speaker B: I. There are so many restaurants now doing like. Like I saw 7 brew. Is that what it's called? Coffee.
[00:29:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:07] Speaker B: They have a lemon pound cake drink coming out and so there's a couple others with lemon in there. And I saw an ice cream shop that's doing a lemon pound cake. So they got lemon pound cake and they put raspberry vanilla ice cream on top and then drizzle it with the lemon pound cake.
Like syrup that's on it.
[00:29:26] Speaker A: That actually sounds really good.
[00:29:28] Speaker B: It was. Yeah. It looked so good. And honestly, growing up, my grandma made the best lemon pound cake. And now that's all I want is to call him. Like, hey, can you make me one of your lemon pound cakes? Because I keep listening to the song and now I need my grandma's lemon pound cake. But yes, it's everywhere now. They made.
They were just stupid because I wouldn't have known these songs had they not filed a lawsuit going to trial.
[00:29:53] Speaker A: I would.
[00:29:54] Speaker B: I don't listen to that for a minute.
[00:29:55] Speaker A: No, they shot themselves in the foot with this. But Afro man, after doing the crap they did.
[00:30:02] Speaker B: I'm glad.
[00:30:03] Speaker A: But I'll. If I for a man, if you hear this and wanted him talk on a woman podcast about your experience, we would love to have you.
[00:30:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I want to know, like, was he nervous or was he that confident? You know, he appeared very confident. Laid back.
[00:30:19] Speaker A: But I will say he probably, out of all the celebrities that have testified, like, I felt like he really held himself. Really, like, Johnny Depp was hilarious. We all know that. But his attorney was crawling under the table because he was being terrible. But I felt like Afroman never did anything to him. Yeah, he said a lot sometimes, and sometimes we don't want as much to be said as people say. But what he said was all good. Like, none of it was, like, embarrassing or making fun of anybody. It was pretty much like, you screwed me. But like you said, I'm gonna turn around. I'm gonna make it good. And do I have a right to have free speech? Yes, I do. We're America. And coming in with that suit was on point.
[00:31:01] Speaker B: And I could definitely tell his lawyer prepped him, because one things we say to clients is, you can get the same answer if they keep asking the same question, different times. Give them the same answer. Give them the same material that you've already given. Don't give them anything new. Don't give me anything more.
[00:31:14] Speaker A: And he do is trip you up to make you say something else. Now, he did really good.
[00:31:21] Speaker B: He would say the same answer. He's like, again, because they raided my house. House again, because they broke into my house.
And so, yes, I could definitely tell his attorney did a good job preparing him for testing, for testifying as well.
[00:31:36] Speaker A: He did it.
[00:31:36] Speaker B: I agree with Lauren. He did a great job.
[00:31:38] Speaker A: Well, that wraps up today. And this is like, our last episode that's going to be in Women's History Month, because next week we're in April. So if y' all have any women that have impacted your lives, we would love to hear real fictional print. It says, menopausal women living in a house together. Whatever. We would love to hear.
So drop us some messages or if there's certain women or shows you want us to talk about, feel free to do that.
[00:32:06] Speaker B: Yep. And we'll see y' all next week.
[00:32:08] Speaker A: Bye.
[00:32:09] Speaker B: Bye.
