Episode 58: Gilmore Girls, Gratitude & the Great Snore Debate

Episode 58 November 28, 2025 00:30:19
Episode 58: Gilmore Girls, Gratitude & the Great Snore Debate
The Lawmas Podcast
Episode 58: Gilmore Girls, Gratitude & the Great Snore Debate

Nov 28 2025 | 00:30:19

/

Show Notes

In this laid-back, laughter-filled episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey take a break from true crime to talk about real life, real stress, and the chaos of being working moms during the holidays. From favorite musicals and nostalgic TV re-watches (hello, Gilmore Girls and One Tree Hill) to court deadlines, snoring husbands, and the fine line between saving money and actually enjoying life, this episode is part vent session, part reminder to slow down and live in the moment.

They share personal stories about work, family, loss, and gratitude, reminding listeners that it’s okay to be overwhelmed, it’s okay to spend on memories, and it’s okay to laugh through the exhaustion.

#thelawmas #gilmoregirls #lawmoms #onetrellhill #lawmomspodcast

View Full Transcript

Episode Transcript

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:06] Speaker B: And I'm Lauren and welcome to another episode of the Llamas podcast. [00:00:11] Speaker A: And today we are just gonna have not really a series type episode, but we've all had a lot going on lately. We both are moms, we're during sick season, we own businesses and we've had a lot of stress. Also a lot to be thankful for. So we're just going to talk about some of the tips or maybe just some venting on how it is being a working parent this time of year. But I did have a question for Lacey first because I want to talk about something fun and you get to know us a little bit more. So we all know Wicked came out this past week and that is one of Lacey's cousin's favorite musicals as I have seen him post about it a lot. So I guess I just wanted so people can get to know us a little bit more. What is your favorite musical? [00:01:00] Speaker B: So for me, musicals are like movies. So like I have it. They're in categories. Right. So like I have a favorite Disney movie, a favorite romantic movie, you know, things like that. So for musicals, like my favorite, I would say like kid friendly musical is probably Wicked. I will say the film. I do feel like the musical is. Is more trended towards kids than the movie. Not that either one are specifically for children, but I would say that I feel like the film is a little bit more darker than the musical and they can do a little bit more in it. But I would, I would definitely say Wicked for that kind of category. But if you're talking about like adult content, like something you would never take. Well, not never, but like, know just there's some things in it that probably I wouldn't take my kids until they're older, but that would be Rent. So I think my two favorites are, are Rent and Wicked. Wicked is a musical I'll take my kids to see. That's my favorite in that category. But if I'm going with adults and going to see something, my favorite musical is Rent. I really love Rent. [00:02:09] Speaker A: What about you? For me, I guess it depends. Like, I haven't really thought about it in categories. I guess I've kind of thought about it in old stuff and new stuff. Sure. So if we're going old, I have a lot of old favorites. I very much enjoy Roger and Hammerstein's. I love the Prince and I. I love South Pacific. [00:02:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:31] Speaker A: So that's kind of my old Middle of the Road was just still really old. I love the Producers. I love the musical number Springtime for Hitler. I know that's terrible to say, but it is a great musical. And if we're talking more newer stuff that's more contemporary, I. I recently got to see and Juliet on Broadway and absolutely loved it because Joey Fatone was in it, and it was amazing. And I recently also. That same trip to New York, I got to see Death Becomes her, the Musical. And it is very, very new. It just came out about this time last year. [00:03:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:07] Speaker A: And I absolutely love that movie with Meryl Streep and Goldie Hawn. And so I was like, let me see this musical. It is definitely amazing. It is made for women and gays. Like, it's just. That's who it's for. Straight men. You're not gonna enjoy it. But I absolutely loved it. So I guess mine's kind of old stuff. [00:03:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:28] Speaker A: I do enjoy Wicked, though. That is, like, really great. And I love. I haven't seen. I was supposed to go see the new Wicked Act 2, but I just haven't got there. Two and a half hours for a movie is really long, and I'm old and tired. But what else? Let me think. I was about to say something else. I do love some Disney musicals, though. Like, I did really enjoy seeing the Lion King. [00:03:52] Speaker B: Yeah. So I have two questions for you. With musicals, do you listen to the music before the play or do you, like, not have a rule? So, for me, I will not listen to any of the music until I see the show. My second question is, if there is a movie and a musical, do you care which order you see it? So, for example, Chicago. I've never seen the movie because I. I've really always wanted to see the musical. So I will not watch the movie because I want to see the musical first. [00:04:23] Speaker A: Well, I guess if we're going here, this is a hard question, because some of these I watched as a child. So, like, I remember watching the King and I in music class in, like, elementary school. So, like, at that point, obviously, I saw the movie first, probably. Like, I've never actually seen the Producers live on, like, Broadway or anything. It's always been the movie versions of it, if newer stuff. That's hard. [00:04:50] Speaker B: That, like. [00:04:51] Speaker A: Okay, so with Wicked, that's hard because Sean and you were singing it back in high school. I think I saw it in college. So, like, I already heard y' all sing the songs beforehand. [00:05:05] Speaker B: You didn't get to choose. [00:05:06] Speaker A: We took away Lauren's Choice, and then, like, and Juliet. I had not listened to the soundtrack before we went. I saw it at the Peace Center. In Greenville before we saw it in New York. But it's all pop music, so, like, it's based with, like, Backstreet Boys and Britney and all that stuff. So I guess I really. With Hamilton, I did not listen to the soundtrack till I saw the play. So I guess that one. But I guess I don't really have a role. And, like, something is. I guess it's just whatever happens, happens. Like, I've never seen South Pacific outside of high schools performing it. [00:05:47] Speaker B: Right. Yeah, same. There's some, like. Like, Hair. I love the play Hair. I've seen the movie and I've watched it. It's fine. But it just doesn't help. But Rent. I've seen both. Like, I've seen the musical, I've seen the movie, and both are just great. Same for Hamilton. I'm so. Well, that's not really a movie. [00:06:10] Speaker A: It's just. They recorded. [00:06:12] Speaker B: But it was a different feeling when you see it. And I've seen it from the back row and the front row, and I've seen the video recording and the. It is a different thing when you see it live and you are close. [00:06:28] Speaker A: I think it's a different. I think that's the cool thing about seeing musicals live. Every cast is a different experience. Like, I've seen. The first time I saw Wicked was not here in the US it was in London. And so it was definitely a different feel because they did have accidents. And that was really cool to have them have their British accents. And I will say, when I saw Hamilton, obviously I saw the traveling cast. I wasn't in New York, but I honestly love the guy that played Hamilton. And, yeah, it was great. [00:06:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I. God, lost my truth, I thought was about to say what's about to say. Not with Hamilton. I forgot. Oh, well. Must have not been that important. I'm fighting a cold. I have brain fog. [00:07:14] Speaker A: Sometimes, though, I gotta see musicals that are traveling just because. Who's in the cast? Because I saw Sweet Charity, which is the hey Big Spender one, because Molly Ringwald was in it. I didn't really like the play, but I love Molly Ringwald. Therefore, I went and saw it. [00:07:31] Speaker B: What I was gonna say is musicals also are kind of like TV shows when you watch them at different phases of life. Like the way I viewed Rent and the way I watched Wicked when I first saw them, you know, in high school, early college, and what I pick up on now as a mom, as someone closer to 40 than 30. It's crazy how when you rewatch something, you've seen there's certain themes that stick out at different ages and phases of your life. You know, like I've seen Gilmore Girls so many times, Friends so many times. [00:08:06] Speaker A: And okay, so speaking of Gilmore Girls, I'm currently in a re watch. When is the last time you have re watched Gilmore Girls? [00:08:13] Speaker B: I actually just started to re watch it again. [00:08:16] Speaker A: Well, I'm in my rewatch, I'm on season four. Rory has not slept with Mary Dean yet, but she is at Yale. So in your rewatch so far, like I haven't got to Logan yet, but in your rewatch, how do you feel about Rory versus with Dean versus Sure. Jess. [00:08:37] Speaker B: So I always was a big huge Jess fan when I watched it as a going through college. But my most recent re watch, he was not very nice to her at all. And so a lot of the things he did really bothered me and I was like, oh my gosh, I can't believe I was such a big Jess fan. Dean annoyed me. I used to love Dean Steele and like. But in my most recent watch, I will say Dean was really annoying. Like after they broke up and like moved on, he just really got on my nerves and I didn't trust him. But yeah. So I was not as much of a jazz fan as I thought I was going to be when I watched the second. Now I love it when Jess comes back. When Jess comes back. That Jess is the Jess that I love. But she should not have dated him. When they dated, he was just not ready for relationship, did not treat her the way she should have been treated. And I don't, I don't like that he really needed to change and grow up to be a better person and somebody to date. But he was not that. When they dated and she should not like going back, I was like, gosh, she deserves better. No. [00:09:55] Speaker A: Now, what about Lorelei? Who do you want her with? [00:09:59] Speaker B: Luke is still steady. I just think their chemistry, I just, I don't know. Every time I watch I can't get past Luke. Like, I'm not saying Max wouldn't have been good for her, but I don't think he would have fit her free lifestyle. Like I think she is just so go with the flow, free spirited and that's who she is. And like I don't want that changing. Like I love that and I don't think Max what would have accommodated that in the long term? [00:10:32] Speaker A: Christopher? [00:10:35] Speaker B: No, not at all. That was just. I think they were good friends and I love. I don't even think Christopher is the greatest dad that they try to make him seem to be. There are times where he is extremely absent from her life. And I don't have, like, how her parents. Emily and dad's name, Richard. Richard, try to say, oh, Christopher's doing great. When's the last time you've heard from Christopher? You know, and it's been a minute and it's been a while since you've seen him. And he's so in and out and they just portray him as like this good dad. When I don't think it is like. But I do like how Lorel, I like, she doesn't say he's a bad dad. You know, she leaves that open for Rory to deal with and go through her process. But it did really bother me how the grandparents always try to say, like, oh, he's a sweet, great person. You should have married him. You should have done all these things. But yet you don't see him. He's absent half the time. [00:11:27] Speaker A: So that's one thing I didn't get. Like, and I get probably the actor that plays him had other stuff going on and didn't like, commit to it. But like, you're playing him up to be a good dad. And like, we rarely see, especially like when, I mean, he shows up at like big events and stuff. Add a lot of stuff, like comes. [00:11:50] Speaker B: In when they date. He tries to step up and be what you should have been the whole time. But at that point, it's too late, dude. Too late. You can't. You can't do that. So I never was a Christopher fan. I think with my own trauma and background with my own dad, I think it just triggered that a lot. So I never liked Christopher, but I think Luke was a good balance for her every time I watch it because he gives her stability. He's always there for her. He's the dad that Rory, I mean, really, he was the dad there always for her. I mean, he was always there for anything they ever needed. And he also just. He would pick on it and get annoying, but he always just let Lorelei be her in her free spirited self. He's just one that embraces it. So I just, every time I watch it, I can't. I know a friend that's a Max fan. I'm just not down with. She's like, she should have married Max. [00:12:46] Speaker A: I'm like, I think Max deserved better if we want to go there, because he deserved. He was a great guy and he deserved to be loved. And Lorelei was not in love with him. Like she loved him, but that was Not. Yeah, her person. And I feel he was a good guy. As far as for me on Jess and Dean. Dean gets on my last nerve. He always has. [00:13:09] Speaker B: Great. Yes. [00:13:09] Speaker A: In the re. Watch, I was like, let me see if I like him. You break up with her because she can't say I love you when y' all are, like, 16 and then dating. Nah. Like, he got on my nerves. Now, I will say I like Jess, but I'm a bad boy girl, and I know it. And, like, just gave the edge. Now, as an adult, like, watching it, if Rory was my teenage daughter, I would not want her to be with Jazz. But I can see why she wants to, because he's who I would want to be with. Like, I wanted Dylan. I want Jess, like, forever. Like, I'm the bad boy girl. I liked Pacey. Like, I just. I'm a bad boy girl, so I liked him. I don't know how I'm gonna feel. She hasn't got to Logan yet. And so I watched this show called the Good Wife, and Logan was on it, and I love that show. And he was kind of a little weaselly character on that too. He. He grows on you in it. [00:14:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:01] Speaker A: So I don't know how I'm gonna feel re watching when I get to him. But originally I hated him. [00:14:06] Speaker B: Right. And the thing is, is I think at a different phase in life, her and Jess would have been perfect, just not the phase of life they were in each other's lives much later on with just their. They had such similar interests. [00:14:24] Speaker A: They were so smart. Like, I'm not trying to hate on Dean, but Dean never had big goals, and Dean wasn't like, the. Rory's so intellectual, and Jess was really like, yes, just floating out of high school, whatever. But as far as smartness, yeah, Jess was intellectually equal to Rory. They could have really intense conversations, and he was very cute, and Logan would. [00:14:47] Speaker B: Bring her down in certain situations, just, like, put her in bad situations. And I didn't like that. And I don't think Jess would have ever done that as at that age that they were. They were during those times. [00:15:01] Speaker A: Well, speaking of all of this, if you like us discussing this, we are happy to do, as part of a podcast series, our opinions on shows from when we were in high school versus now. And we can dive into those or even movies. Like, we can go into, like, One Tree Hill. That was one we both loved back in the day. I think you liked it too, didn't you? [00:15:24] Speaker B: And 90210. Definitely gotta do 90210. [00:15:27] Speaker A: Like deal with those shows and tell you how we felt when we watched them as teens versus how we feel now because like I feel like I do feel like we grew up in the best area of primetime TV for teens. We had such good shows and we can talk about that to have something different than Blood and Gore and all that stuff. So let us know if that's something you want us to dive into because we can do a deeper dive into Gilmore Girls or Dawson's Creek or any of those type shows. [00:15:59] Speaker B: Yep. So I know we kind of rambled on about TV shows but to hit our topic for a few minutes. So holidays are coming up and so like Lauren was saying, just dealing with everything. And I'll be honest, I had, I was in court until 5:30, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, next week, week. So like I personally just feel very overwhelmed. I have not done any Christmas shopping at all for anybody. I don't even, I don't even know what's going to happen. Like I felt like last Christmas I was in such shambles because we had just lost Chipper and so I just didn't have much Christmas spirit and I really wanted this to be better. And honestly I'm in just such a Disney spirit. I don't even care about going shopping and doing Christmas gifts. I just want to go see Mickey Mouse with my kids and, and my husband and my mother in law and Addison and I want to go ride rides and I want to make sure Mac meets Pluto and they're excited for the hotel and I have the Disney spirit. Art of animation, Lion King family suite. Yeah. So I have Disney spirit, not Christmas spirit. And I just, my court is not dying down. I mean we have huge things. I have a brief due neck two, two weeks from yesterday to a judge and I have a stand your ground. And then I come back from break in January and have a trial the second week in January and so I just feel very overwhelmed. I don't know how I handle it. Last night I didn't sleep. [00:17:38] Speaker A: I will say usually I feel like Christmas sometimes can slow down for me because like I don't know, New Year's usually picks up because somebody dies over the holidays. Like I've said before, people tend to die over Christmas and it gets you like worked up on. I need to get myself in place. But this year there has not been a slow moment lately and we, I just feel like in my office we're all like hamsters on that wheel but we're not going anywhere. But we are like running Non stop. And I think it's okay to admit that sometimes. And it's okay to be. I mean, I'm not gonna say I'm burned out because I'm 37, so I'm not supposed to be burned out yet because I still gotta work, you know, at least another 25 years. Probably hoping for 20. But realistically, I gotta have money to live my life. But I guess in that thought process, I have been a different person lately than I thought I would be. As far as life goes. I've been spending some money. My husband's currently unemployed, but I still been spending money because you know what? Life is only once. And like, I got a huge life insurance policy, so my kids are gonna be fine if I die. So I've just decided that there has been so much death and sadness around me. Like I've seen people pass away recently that it shocked me. And I'm like, it really hit home. I had one person pass away and he'd really talked about how he was so excited to retire and get to go enjoy life and go on vacations. He died before that happened. So, like, I dealt with death a lot in my line of work, obviously, but like, you really hit home because this man had worked so hard to get where he was. And then what, he didn't enjoy it? He died? You know, I mean, I, I believe this man is in heaven. And having, you know, there's. It's weird, like death is sad and you didn't enjoy it, but I know you're like in heaven, living that best life. But like, it's just, it's made me realize, like, I'm only here once and my kids are only little once. And if I want to go to Disney and spend some money and maybe, you know, like, I don't have the biggest budget for it, but I can just like eat peanut butter sandwiches for a few days and save some money, do different things. I'm definitely not probably Dave Ramsey's biggest fan in my life. So fan right now. Because all this stuff about save, save, save, your kids are only little once. And I get you need to save. I'm not saying be frivolous and be stupid, but also you need to enjoy along the way. I mean, obviously don't go to Disney and spend thousands of dollars if you don't have it, but going and doing something little, like going to the beach with your family or doing something fun, because there's going to come a time when your kids are teenagers and they don't want to spend time with you, unless you're me. Because that's. You know, I was with my parents all the time. I, like, they're gonna grow up and have their own lives and have their own kids. And, like, I only get this once. And then, yeah, when they're older and they leave me, me and my husband can do stuff. Maybe he likes to sit at home, but, like, I want to enjoy the time I have when they're little and want to be with me. And, like, it's just put a lot of perspective, I guess. This whole year that I had court the other way, and normally I get so nervous, I'd want to throw up. It wasn't like that. I was just like, this is life. I'm gonna go in and do my best. And I won against a more experienced attorney than me. So, like, sometimes it's just. I don't know, I think maybe taking some pressure off yourself that we're human. This is life. Enjoy it. [00:21:05] Speaker B: Have fun. [00:21:06] Speaker A: I mean, don't do stupid stuff. I'm not telling you, go in $10,000 worth of debt, but, you know, if you got to put, like, a $200 bill on your credit card that you're gonna pay off next month so you can go enjoy, like, a night away with your family to do something fun, be sensible. But also, don't wait to enjoy life till you're older, because you may never get there. [00:21:27] Speaker B: I was kind of thinking about that, like, you know, we had to get Marc a new car when we didn't really want to that soon. I mean, we were getting there, but then when his truck broke, and then we couldn't get the truck sold, and that took forever. And it was a big repair, and we had to repair anyway before selling it. I just remember, just hit after hit, and we need a new roof. Thankfully, entrance it came through on that. But we, Me and Mark had planned an Italy trip for June. And my mom's like, well, maybe you don't need to go to Italy. And I was like, I'm going to Italy because in my core friend group from college, I mean, I thought there were. There was a trip. And when the picture comes up, I look at all of us with our spouses, and I remember being in those moments and thinking, oh, my gosh, we're all going to be together forever. Like, I can't imagine any of my friends without that other person. You know, I just can't fathom their life without them. And now three of my friends are. Two are divorced, and one is going through a divorce. And I'm like, I'm going to Italy because, you know, it's our 10 year anniversary trip. And seeing, you know, friends of ours that have been married even longer, like, that's a celebration. Like, that shows how hard both of us have worked, I think, in making our marriage work and last and still be full of loves. Love through the highs and lows. And so just seeing what my friends went through, and it breaks my heart. I'm like, no, we need to take this trip because we are so lucky that we got to this point. And we should celebrate it and we should keep celebrating it, you know, each milestone we make, because life's not easy, you know, and we for sure have had our share of ups and downs, but, you know, there's nobody else I'd want to go to bed with at night and, you know, put a pillow over his face because he snored all night. But that's fine. I still love him. And I didn't. I didn't put a pillow over his face because I love him. And we're gonna celebrate that in Italy. [00:23:23] Speaker A: See, that's what tell us. One day I was like, I made a video. You snoring. So when I snap, the world will understand and I will get off because. [00:23:33] Speaker B: Do you have a hatch light? You know what I'm talking about. You know how loud those things are. [00:23:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:41] Speaker B: To 50. And I could still hear him snore. [00:23:44] Speaker A: Well, Wes has had, like, the chronic junk, so I made it. And he had. So pink eye has went through our house. I know we've talked about some illnesses. Pink eye went through our house. And then Wes got it. Luckily, I did not get it. I hate touching my eyeball. I would die. But he got so made him sleep on the bed downstairs. And I love my husband and I don't want to be one of those couples that don't sleep together. But, like, that night was awesome because I did not hear snoring, so. But he's going to the doctor in December to hopefully maybe get some answers. But then like, my. One of the people that works in my office, her husband's on a cpap and it legit sounds like a chainsaw every night. So I'm like, I don't know what's worse. She literally sent me a video and I was like, oh, my God, how do you sleep? And she's like, well, mine makes that noise too. [00:24:33] Speaker B: So Mark has had this as well. So he's been congested. So I know he is snoring because he's been congested. But like, when he lays on his side, he stops. Oh, yeah, it's the worst. And so, like, I feel bad because, I mean, I kept waking up because I. I can't sleep with him. Storm. I keep turning this thing up louder and louder. The machine, the sound machine, and it's not working. And I'm sick too. And I know that's why I can't sleep, because I took some medicine later in the day. I knew that's what was keeping me awake because the last time I took it, it kept me awake as well. But, you know, I needed to sleep because I'm sick. But I also felt bad waking him up because I know he's not snoring, you know, for anything else other than he's literally congested and has the same thing. So he probably didn't sleep well either. And he's probably irritated with me and wished that he could put a pillow over my face the way last night went. But today we really love each other and we'll see how tonight goes. And we're going to Italy because we don't put pillows over each other's faces. We love each other too much for that. [00:25:39] Speaker A: My husband snores every single night. It has nothing to do with. I mean, he is congested, so it's more. But he is just a snorer. And my husband, I know a lot of you people probably have no idea what my husband looks like, which is cool. He's tall and skinny. He's not your normal person for sleep apnea. He is not overweight. I don't know what's going on with him and annoys the crap out of me, but he was lived, you know, before me, he didn't share a bed with anyone. So before we got married, we didn't live together anything. And we. Maybe it's been a night here or there on like a trip, but before I got married, so I didn't know what he's a male, like, and I was like, do you snore? And he's like, no. Well, you didn't know because nobody else had been in the bed with you and you lied. But I mean, my children also snore. My 3 year old and my 5 year old, if they get on their backs, they snore, so I can't even go get in the bed with them to escape. And Harvey, my baby who passed away, it's been a little over a year now, he snored something awful. But let me tell you, I never once thought about putting a pillow over that dog's. Head. He could have came in there and pooped on my face and I still wouldn't be mad at him because he was my baby. [00:26:43] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Well, you know, they've got those machine, those little things now. If it's his tongue slipping back, there's like a thing that you put, like, here and it triggers your tongue to lay down because sometimes that can cause the apnea. They said that that's what's happening with Luke, and he'll be a candidate once he's older for that. And that's not a cpap. Luke does have sleep apnea severe, and he doesn't snore. [00:27:11] Speaker A: That's crazy. I know there's things like one person messaged me. Thomas from law school messaged me, and he said he went to the doctor and they, like, did something to, like, drain his sinuses. And that really helps. I'm gonna get Wes to ask about that. But, yeah, I know we babbled a lot, but I guess my question to all our listeners is, do you have the same feels? Are you, like, back in, like, the 2000s YOLO with your life and knowing we got to live it up? Are you like Dave Ramsey? I'm gonna eat on, you know, some rice cakes and not do anything until I'm financially stable. Like, where are you? I think different generations see this differently too. So, like, are you a millennial? Do you feel like us? Because I just see boomers burning out and being exhausted and not getting the chance to enjoy life while they can. And, you know, my mother in law. [00:28:03] Speaker B: She'S taking us to Alaska. Susan's take, my mother in law's taking us to Alaska for her 70th. So we're going on Alaskan cruise in two years. So I will say, my mother in law is not your typical boomer. She is ready to go and spend some money. [00:28:22] Speaker A: Well, she finally can, though, because she's turning 70. [00:28:25] Speaker B: That's true. Good point. [00:28:26] Speaker A: She needs to go now before it's all bus tours. [00:28:32] Speaker B: You're right. But we're going. [00:28:34] Speaker A: That's our conversation at work. Like, when do you hit from where? I travel by myself when I go get on the bus tour. [00:28:41] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:28:42] Speaker A: And I want to travel before bus tour life. [00:28:44] Speaker B: Well, I did tell her. I said, well, we better go for your 70th. We don't know where you'll be for your 80th. I said, so we'll just go ahead and go now while you can. [00:28:52] Speaker A: Well, y' all let us know what you think and if you want us to do some deep dives into our favorite series. We would be happy to do that. So just let us know what you're thinking and we hope you all are enjoying this holiday season and can get some rest and relaxation. [00:29:07] Speaker B: Yep. And next week when we get back, we're gonna start our holiday homicide stuff series. So basically true crime around the holidays, we'll be sharing some of our favorite, I hate to say favorite, but I guess most intriguing stories. So stay tuned for next week for that. And before we pop off, real quick, Lauren, what are you thankful for? [00:29:32] Speaker A: I'm thankful for. I'm gonna give a generic just answer, but my family. [00:29:38] Speaker B: Yeah, me too. Definitely grateful for my my family and my my health. I'll say I'm really grateful for my mental health. I really worked on that for the past few years and as different things have come up in life, I'm just really proud at how I handle situations because I know how drastically different they are from years past. So for me, I'm really grateful for my mental health. Th. [00:30:01] Speaker A: That is awesome to hear. Well, we hope you all are grateful. Thankful and since you're going to be watching this after Thanksgiving that you are stuffed full of turkey and enjoyed your Black Friday shopping. [00:30:12] Speaker B: Happy Thanksgiving.

Other Episodes

Episode 48

September 19, 2025 00:29:47
Episode Cover

Episode 48: Serial Killer September: The Golden State Killer

In this episode, Lauren and Lacey dig into the case of the Golden State Killer, Joseph James DeAngelo, a man whose crimes spanned burglary,...

Listen

Episode

April 10, 2025 00:30:58
Episode Cover

Episode 25: The Lawmas Book Club: Framed by 'Experts': When Science Gets It Wrong

In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey continue their book club discussion about wrongful convictions in the book Framed by John...

Listen

Episode 31

May 21, 2025 00:26:12
Episode Cover

Episode 31: Concerts, Guilt Trips, and Grandma Drama

In this episode of the Lawmas Podcast, Lauren and Lacey get real about the complicated dynamics millennials face with their parents and grandparents. What...

Listen